2006-02-12

Je suis passé devant les pentes 40-80 hier et j'ai été surpris du peu de skieurs présents. Il y avait quelques bouts choux et leurs parents qui attendaient sagement que le cours de chasse neige se termine. Mais pour un beau samedi ensoleillé, on peu pas dire qu'il y avait foule.





Pourtant depuis des années des centaines d'enfants sont venus faire leur première expérience de ski ici.





Au mois de novembre on aprenait que la Ville procèdait à une étude de rentabilité sur les Pentes 40-80. Quelle est ou quelle sera les conclusions de cette étude? Il est certain que ce petit centre ski ne peut se comparer au Chanteclerc ou même au Mont Gabriel. Il devra donc soit se spécialiser ou soit disparaitre.



On pourrait pas faire changement et être original pour une fois? Gratuit pour les moins de 12 ans par exemple ou gratuit pour tous les weekends de carnaval. Utilisation des pentes 40-80 comme attrait touristique. Wow ! oui mais sûrement trop révolutionnaire, la mode aujourd'hui est à la tarification "Utilisateur-payeur". C'est un peu plate, non?



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Anonymous Anonyme said...

Gratuit? Vous y allez pas un peu fort? Seriez vous prêt à dire la même chose pour un autre sport, le golf par exemple tant qu'à dire n'importe quoi?

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11:55 a.m.  
Blogger Luc said...

Pourquoi pas! Pourquoi ne pas devenir une ville qui encourage le sport et le plein air. Plutôt que d'avoir sans cesse des projets de condos pour baby boomers, on aurait peut-être de beaux projets pour construire de vrais maisons, avec un peu de terrain pour faire changement. Qu'elle promotion pour attirer des jeunes familles cela serait. Il nous manquerait juste une patinoire intérieure. On pourrait faire des ententes avec les hôteliers pour les piscines. Tout les sports gratuit pour moins de 12 ans pour les résidents de Sainte-Adèle. Ca serait inovateur non?

12:01 p.m.  
Blogger André Bérard said...

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1:30 p.m.  
Blogger André Bérard said...

Attention, mon cher Gaétan J., ce n'est pas parce que Luc n'est pas de votre avis qu'il dit n'importe quoi. Je trouve au contraire son idée très intéressante. Elle a au moins le mérite de proposer quelque chose de nouveau. Par contre, je suis contre la gratuité du golf. Les terrains de golf sont d'importants agents de contamination de la nappe phréatique. De plus, à moins d'être publics, ils sont réservés à une petite élite qui a les moyens de s'offrir le coût du membership. Assez de golf, soyons donc plus créatifs! Il y a moyen d'exploiter nos ressources régionales sans les contaminer ni les détruire. Souhaitons que la Ville et ses promoteurs affiliés ne lorgneront pas du côté du 40-80 salivant à la perspective de prendre la « pente » du progrès en y plantant des «baby-bunkers» (lire des condos défigurant le paysage et à l'usage exclusif d'une génération croyant que tout lui est dû). Je sais, je sais, on ne doit pas mettre tous les Baby-boomers dans le même condo, pardons, dans le même panier. Mais …

André Bérard

1:38 p.m.  
Anonymous Pierrot said...

D'accord avec la gratuité pour les pentes 40-80.
Contre la nouvelle tarification au parc de la Doncaster.
Si les concepts de rentabilité et utilisateur-payeur sont appliqués de façon trop étroite, on est aussi bien de tout privatiser.
Qu'adviendrait-il alors des orchestres symphoniques et autres activités culturelles ou de loisirs qui dépendent de l'aide de la collectivité pour exister?
Mais peut-être que la gratuité attirerait d'avantage les classes moyennes et plus pauvres ce qui ne ferait sûrement pas l'affaire des promoteurs de condos "haut de gamme"
Les riches n'aiment pas beaucoup le voisinage des pauvres! Par exemple, les pauvres sont peu nombreux sur les terrains de golfs, à l'exception de ceux qui y travaillent bien sûr!

Jean-Pierre St-Germain

8:55 a.m.  
Blogger André Bérard said...

En visitant les différents sites Internet officiels des municipalités environnantes (Mont-Tremblant, Ste-Agathe, St-Sauveur, etc.) une chose m’a frappé : le site de Ste-Adèle est le seul à accorder gracieusement une vitrine à des entrepreneurs généraux (et non contracteurs généraux qui est un calque de l’anglais que semble ignorer les rédacteurs du site), des architectes, des arpenteurs, des courtiers immobiliers. Voyez par vous-même. Il y a bien un lien vers le site de la Chambre de commerce permettant de connaître « les autres intervenants » comme ils les appellent. Je me demande pourquoi la Ville accorde ce privilège à cette catégorie d’entreprises plutôt qu’à une autre. Ça me laisse songeur, pas vous?

En passant, le site Internet de la Ville est truffé de fautes d’orthographe, d’anglicismes, de coquilles et j’en passe. Un petit effort, s'il vous plaît! Lorsque vous terminerez de corriger vos fautes d’urbanisme, je vous suggère de vous pencher sérieusement sur celles de votre site.

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3:13 p.m.  
Blogger Maurice said...

Je gage que nos élus aimeraient mieux avoir des payeurs de taxes que des skieurs sur le 40/80...

Au sujet des taxes, les miens sont augmentés par 15% pour le 2006. Malgré tous les nouveaux domiciles en ville, ils ont ont besoin de nous imposer l'augmentation de taxes le plus élevé en mémoire?! Quelque chose ne marche pas de tout... Le buget du départment d'urbanisme est la première place à couper!

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Blogger Luc said...

J'avais remarqué moi aussi que la Ville avait "règlémenté" une nouvelle tarification pour le parc Doncaster. C'était gratuit pour les résidents les années précédentes. C'est un peu cheap je trouve, je veux bien payer pour louer des raquettes ou pour pêcher, mais pour me promener dans le bois. Je sais que c'est pas chère, mais quand même...La prochaine étape on vas devoir payer pour regarder le lac?

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Blogger André Bérard said...

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3:33 p.m.  
Blogger André Bérard said...

Je sais que je ne suis pas dans le thème du message de Luc sur les pentes 40-80, mais j'invite tous ceux et celles qui doutent encore de l'invasion imminente des baby-boomers et surtout des horreurs architecturales que l'on prévoit nous imposer afin de bien bichonner cette génération de Preneurs, allez voir ceci et prenez le temps de lire le PDF. C'est très instructif !

Je ne sais pas pour vous, mais en ce qui me concerne, je sens comme une urgence de mobilisation contre tout ça. Et vous?

André Bérard

3:36 p.m.  
Blogger Maurice said...

Oui André, c'est très sérieux. Et c'est pas loin du tout de la "vision" de nos élus. Par contre, pour la plupart des gens d'ici, il sagit de prostituer notre paysage par des promoteurs.

Il faut qu'on s'organise! On a besoin de faire des demonstrations, faire signer des petitions, et écrire des lettres à nos élus et aux journaux ... et surtout nous assurer que le prochain maire n'est pas pour prostituer notre village!

Les marchands et citoyens qui s'accottent au parc Grignon se sont faites servis, par huissier, des avis de "résérvation de droit d'expropriation", en anticipation de construire un centre d'achats avec stationnement pour 500! Un préposé de la ville explicait que c'etait pour "enlever les obstacles dans la rue" aux promoteurs. Est-ce qu rien n'est sacré? J'usqua quel point est-ce que nous allons accepter ce mannière de "gérer" notre village?

Il faut qu'on s'organise...

6:46 p.m.  
Anonymous des couragés said...

facilement possible de compter 4 ou 5 generations qui ont appris a faire du ski aux 40 80.....

mais je crains que ce sera pas pour longtemps.
en effet une serie de condos en etages ......
serait plus payants
a courts termes pour la ville
a court terme
car une fois la montagne detruite .......pas de retour possible.

comment faire pour sensibiliser les gens a ce probleme......


et surtout dire a nos elus qu on ne veut pas perdre ce site....

les architectes et promoteurs ont deja les yeux dessus.

allez les bollés en informatique
vs pouvez pas inserer une petition ds ce blog? ce serait un debut!

8:26 p.m.  
Blogger André Bérard said...

J'y travaille. Dès que j'aurais des résultats, je vous les partagerais. Une pétition électronique, ce serait pas mal. Facile à faire circuler. Une chose est certaine, il faut amorcer un mouvement de contestation. Mobiliser les forces et les faire agir. J'aimerais aussi que la Ville signe la Charte du paysage dont je parle sans cesse. Sans avoir force de loi, une charte signée par la municipalité représenterait à tout le moins un engagement moral. Si un référendum a permis de bloquer le projet de la tour Riopel, ça donne de l'espoir.

À suivre

André Bérard

8:40 p.m.  
Blogger Luc said...

Je suis pas certain mais je crois que la ville a effectivement signée la Charte des paysages.

9:48 p.m.  
Anonymous Alain said...

On pourrais en faire un bel emplacement pour des condos.
Il faut que j'en parle avec
Jean Paul.

9:51 p.m.  
Blogger André Bérard said...

Si la Ville a effectivement signé la Charte du paysage, elle a dû la ranger tout au fond d'un tiroir et oublier son existence. La Tour Riopel et la Charte du paysage sont deux entités incompatibles et si je me souviens bien, notre bienheureux maire semblait s'exciter ouvertement pour ce projet aberrant.

André Bérard

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Dites-moi ou et quand signer la pétition. Nous sommrs plusieurs a avoir notre village a coeur.


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